Holly Johnson:

... mmmmm ...

Paul Morley:

What was the glitter about Paul, Holly?

Holly Johnson: 

The glitter about Paul?

Paul Morley: 

Holly Johnson: 

I didn't until ..... sometime this year in fact.

Paul Morley: 

Really?

Holly Johnson: 

Paul Rutherford:

(laughing)

Holly Johnson:

Ergh, and he gave it loads right.

Paul Morley:

Yeah?

Holly Johnson:

And we were just starting, we got a few support dates with Hambi, through knowing Hambi.

Paul Morley: 

That's Frankie.

Holly Johnson:  

That's Frankie Goes To Hollywood, in fact. Which was ..... you know (laughing) woooah (laughing)

Paul Rutherford: 

(laughing)

Holly Johnson: 

Oh yeah. Which was Mark, Ped and Ged and Sonia ...

Paul Rutherford:

Sonya

Holly Johnson: 

Sonya Mazunda

Paul Morley: 

Why did you choose the name?

Holly Johnson:

Paul Morley:

Jamming?

Holly Johnson: 

Yeah you know kind of learning, learning period. Erm we needed a name quick cos we had to get a gig you know and all that stuff and there was a ..... a picture, a piece of the New Yorker magazine stuck to the wall in the rehearsal room that said Frankie goes to Hollywood, and a picture of Frank Sinatra, getting ahh, mobbed (laughing) by, what were they called, what were they called ..... oh you know Teeny Boppers or something like that (laughing)

Paul Rutherford:

That's it (laughing)

Holly Johnson:

Frankie Goes To Hollywood

We used to give it loads of 'Hey it's a movie' (laughing) and this is your audition, well that was it at the time.

Paul Morley:

At this time it was complete nonsense really, weren't it?

Holly Johnson: 

Sorry?

Paul Morley:

Complete nonsense really?

Holly Johnson:

Yeah it was but it was entertaining nonsense, we thought. And that's whatcha got it good.

Paul Morley:

Entertaining nonsense.

Holly Johnson: 

Well yeah. ..... Dada! (laughing) No need to Dada. Zang Tuum Tumb an' all that. Oh when are we gonna have these parties then? (laughing) We've been promised parties.

Paul Rutherford:

Where's these parties you've promised us?

Holly Johnson: 

You've promised us parties.

Paul Morley:

I promised you four parties.

Paul Rutherford: 

Four? Ahh love.

Holly Johnson:

I'm ahh ...

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Paul Morley:

Why do you sing?

Holly Johnson: 

Sing?

Paul Morley:

Yeah.

Holly Johnson:

Why do? I could give it loads of 'it's something that comes from within' but, you know, it's just not that?

Paul Morley:

So why do you sing?

Holly Johnson: 

It's just something I've always wanted to do.

Paul Morley:

Yeah?

Holly Johnson: 

One of the things I've always wanted to do.

Paul Morley:

Since when?

Holly Johnson:

Since I was about four, I used to sing to the pigeons (laughing)

Paul Morley:

Who do you sing to now?

Holly Johnson: 

Eh?

Paul Morley:

Who do you sing to now?

Holly Johnson:

Ergh? I think it's dead important to sing to yourself really. You know what I mean?

Paul Morley:

Yeah?

Holly Johnson: 

You gotta enjoy it firstly ..... and it's a buzz if other people enjoy it.

Paul Morley:

It's a what?

Holly Johnson:

A buzz.

Paul Morley: 

Yeah?

Holly Johnson: 

Do you ever think about who's gonna enjoy it?

I think about the people.

Paul Rutherford:

Yes they crossed my mind once (laughing)

Paul Morley:

I mean do you care about ...

Holly Johnson: 

Do we really, do we really care?

Paul Morley:

 I mean do you ..... like think about like competition?

Holly Johnson: 

Occasionally, occasionally, occasionally.

Paul Morley:

like Culture Club or ABC or anything like that?

Paul Rutherford:

No, no not like, erm, no not them.

Holly Johnson: 

I don't see them as competition 'cos it a completely different thing what we're doing.

Paul Morley:

What are you doing them?

Holly Johnson:

Oooh, well you'll just have to flip it over and see.